The Science Behind Saturated Fat and Health
This thread explores the science behind saturated fat and health. Does eating saturated fat-rich foods lead to premature death? Can we trust the science? What is the Warburg effect and how does it relate to cancer?

gary taubes
Author of The Case for Keto, The Case Against Sugar, Why We Get Fat, Good Calories, Bad Calories, Bad Science, and Nobel Dreams
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"That should settle it, don't you think?" @TamarHaspel asks.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
My answer, not surprisingly, no.
As I've said before about nutrition research in this context (and others), let's pretend this is science.
Read on.
1/21 https://t.co/RUMTagXTP8 -
Yes S(aturated)FAs raise LDL--compared to carbs or U(nsaturated)FA's -- but that doesn't mean eating SFA-rich foods will kill us prematurely.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
I discussed this issue in the journal Science in 2001: https://t.co/U7N48qawKp
2/21 -
Not entirely irrelevant aside: that Science article constituted a year of work and was based on both reading the literature and interviews with over 160 researchers and administrators.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
It won the National Association of Science Writers Science in Society Award.
3/21 -
Foods do many things when consumed. Influencing blood lipids (LDL, HDL, Trigs...) is only one of them.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
Just as drugs do many things when taken.
Hence, RCTs are required to know the actual balance of benefits and risks: effects on both morbidity & mortality.
4/21 -
Looking at effects on cholesterol alone -- let alone LDL cholesterol alone, as Tamar suggests -- is insufficient.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
That was the case when I wrote my Science article and it still is.
This issue cannot be dismissed merely because it's inconvenient.
5/21 -
Unlike drugs, the effects of foods are always compared to what else we might have eaten instead. Tamar neglects this point, too.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
Eating less of one food implies eating more of another.
SFA's raise LDL compared to carbs, but they also raise HDL and lower Trigs.
6/21 -
SFA's raise LDL compared to UFAs from vegetable oils without the HDL or Trig benefits.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
But can vegetable oils be deleterious for other reasons?
What's the trade-off
How would we find out?
7/21 -
To settle the issue, as Tamar suggests she has, requires RCTs showing (unambiguously) that subjects live longer and healthier lives by replacing SFA-rich foods (cheese and butter, say) with P(oly)UFA or MUFA-rich foods (seed oils, olive oil).
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
8/21 -
Here's Tamar's primary source, Ron Krauss (whom I know and respect immensely) as the last author of an article JUST TWO YEARS AGO making the opposite point to what she now argues:https://t.co/F2cPv8ELAc
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
9/21 -
Why are Ron and his co-authors making the opposite point?
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
Because the handful of meaningful RCTs that tested SFA/PUFA trade-offs are half a century old and the results can charitably be called ambiguous.
10/21 -
With one notable exception: the $.5 billion (most expensive diet trial ever) Women's Health Initiative, which in 2006 reported NO benefits of avoiding SFA-rich foods.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
Hmm, maybe they're harmless for women and not men. RCTs are needed to clarify. https://t.co/wQtZyP3uFi
11/21 -
So I'd say the jury is still out.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
Meanwhile, a couple of thought experiments:
1. If you ate more like the French & Swiss (copious SFAs from butter, cheese and meats) and less like the AHA prescribes (low fat/SFA) -- should you expect to die prematurely?
Thoughts?
12/21 -
Twitter seems to have eaten tweets 13-21. Regrettably.
— gary taubes (@garytaubes) June 11, 2023
I do not have time (at the moment) to reconstitute them, so I hope this will suffice.
If you'd like me to try, let me know.